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The taskmaster is a good idea, but I can't see why you would want to move away from GW's figures as these are the most popular of the LOTR gaming figures. When/if I get the time I want to try and expand these rules to cater for large battles rather than skirmishes due to the huge armies I have recruited for WOTR but don't like playing.

I like the sound of larger games. The only problem I could see with a large game (depending on what is defined as a large game) is how the SAGA dice fit in. One of the really good things about SAGA is the absolute limit on the number of SAGA dice available. In the case of a large game, would this limit be affected?

Cadfael wrote:I like the sound of larger games. The only problem I could see with a large game (depending on what is defined as a large game) is how the SAGA dice fit in. One of the really good things about SAGA is the absolute limit on the number of SAGA dice available. In the case of a large game, would this limit be affected?

No, I don't think so. The idea is that instead of having several units of 8 men you will have several units of 32-ish models or several movement trays, possibly removing a movement tray of (x) number of models rather than individual models. It may be that you roll a combat dice for every 4 Warrior models and remove 4 for every kill keeping the ratio's of combat dice, SAGA dice and SAGA effects the same so as not to upset the balance between them.

Sorry, I should have been clearer in my point. GW's figures are fine to use, I have several hundred myself that desperately need to be used. Classing armies as to what was portrayed in the films and then, by extension, GW's rules is more of what I was talking about. Now, this is probably me just being nit picky ,but I have never been happy with the movie's interpretation of Middle Earth dominating that of our own and seek a bit more wiggle room when I sit down to game some Tolkien. Since this will only be a unofficial, fan adaptation of the Saga rules, I guess I would say that I AM being nit picky and leave it at that.

It's not being nit picky at all, the problem is that everybody will have their own views on how certain soldiers and heroes fight, what equipment they carried how they look etc etc. Nobody is wrong as the facts are sketchy at best.

tbopper1 wrote:Sorry, I should have been clearer in my point. GW's figures are fine to use, I have several hundred myself that desperately need to be used. Classing armies as to what was portrayed in the films and then, by extension, GW's rules is more of what I was talking about. Now, this is probably me just being nit picky ,but I have never been happy with the movie's interpretation of Middle Earth dominating that of our own and seek a bit more wiggle room when I sit down to game some Tolkien. Since this will only be a unofficial, fan adaptation of the Saga rules, I guess I would say that I AM being nit picky and leave it at that.

I might have missed some point but im not sure what you are meaning by " middle earth dominating that of our own" Any clarification available?

Hi
I just got into ther game and being sort on figures I "borrowed" my sons lord of the ring, no changes need
Gondorians as Normans, Rohan as vikings, Orks as Saxons and of course Goblins as welsh.(I would use dwarves but I haven,t any)

my elves I used as saxons but gave the warriors bows

simples

peter

Nah, not that simples, you forgot to add in monsters Normans do not work for Gondor as the board is all about cavalry and archers which Gondor did not excel in at all, apart from Ranger specialists, if anything this would be more suited to Rohan being a mainly cavalry army. And orks do not really fit in as Anglo-danes (as the rules say as that is a defensive style board which I don't imaging orks being. Wait for the Anglo-Saxon board, that will do it

IN my games I've been playing the Numenoreans as Anglo-Danes and the Orcs as Vikings (occaisionally Goblins show up as the Welsh). Seems to Jive pretty well with what Tolkien describes and its been great fun! I agree with Hithero, The Norman list is tailor made for the Rohirrim as you could field an entirely mounted force with it.

Here's a batrep from a couple of months ago:

http://geektactica.blogspot.com/#!/2011/10/first-saga-game-isildur-victorious.html

Just a thought... Do Gondor and Rohan HAVE to have Levy class troops? If they are all Hearthguard or Warrior troops, it would also help make the Orcs look more numerous. Gondorian Warrior Archers would work like Norman Crossbow Warriors, and bow-armed Riders of Rohan would work like Mounted Welsh Javelin Warriors.

The closest I can think of for Rohan Levy would be the Defenders of Helm's Deep... They looked unhappy to be there!

Also, rather than just adopting Battle Board wholesale, how about picking abilities from the existing boards, and mix and match to produce Battle Boards unique to each faction. I did something similar for the English and French HYW troops, and so far it seems to work just fine.

For melee armed Orc Levy, I would be tempted to exchange their shooting ability for 1 extra armour point. That way, they are Armour 4 (Similarly protected to Warriors), but fighting that little bit worse!