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Harry Red Knape wrote:Anyhow I've decided to use 6mm figures based on pin heads......

Just for aesthetics you know =-

Presumably all Hearthguard Archers and Varangian Guardsmen....

could the reverse be true - that a Warlord on a huge base - is easier to get more models attacking him within 2"?

eBob wrote:It's not a massive issue anyway - with the 2" rule - you can usually get any full unit of 12 into combat with the enemy.
if they attack your side, then some one or 2 models may be out of combat - but it's not a big deal. I wouldn't recommend that
people use 30mm bases (as I have seen some people have) or basing your Warlord on a huge base - I don't think is a good idea.

Yes I confess I am pretty bemused by all of this but we did at least discuss basing when we started playing, agreed that it shouldn't matter, and resolved to just be consistent about how much depth both players could achieve. With the numbers involved in the units, frontage doesn't seem a serious issue. I will say, whatever the designers' intent, that depth at least could have been specified as a number of bases rather than a distance without breaking anything and that would have taken *some* of the heat out of the issue?

For what it is worth, two of my armies are on 25mm rounds - because they were already on them - and one is on 20mm squares - because it will let me sabot base them for Impetus. Either way, warlords are 40mm, to stand out. My 25mm rounds regularly play against armies on 20mm squares with lots of warriors to pack in but I manage to go on somehow. Likewise, when I play my Norman opponent with 40mm rounds for the cav, I'm not inclined to try and claim more depth than him. However, If I ever run a SAGA event, I will adopt that coin suggestion (with washers though)!

When practicing the game I was using my Rohan cavalry as Normans - but I quickly found that the 40mm width on the bases wasn't a good idea - so when I based my Norman models I put them on 25mm wide pill shape bases - which is much better for attacking 1 for 1 against infantry.

I can see the reasoning, but he's been managing ok with his units of 6-8 cavalry. The only time he hasn't been able to achieve roughly what he wanted was when I managed to create a bottle-neck using terrain. I might link him this thread though and see what he thinks. The 'pill' bases are at least 2" (though I recall there is something 'odd sized' about those GW ones?) deep so he packs more in that way?

Xelee wrote:I can see the reasoning, but he's been managing ok with his units of 6-8 cavalry. The only time he hasn't been able to achieve roughly what he wanted was when I managed to create a bottle-neck using terrain. I might link him this thread though and see what he thinks. The 'pill' bases are at least 2" (though I recall there is something 'odd sized' about those GW ones?) deep so he packs more in that way?

My cavalry bases are 25mm wide and 2mm short of 2". The actual SAGA measurement of VS is a bit less than 2" - so I was careful that my bases were less than 2"

Im Xelees opponent, and find that while I like the look of the 25/40mm rounds they are not ideal from a gamimg perspective. This dosnt matter Too much for SAGA but can be an issue with terrain.

My Norman Warlord is on a massive 60mm base as he his mounted with a mounted standard bearer...he does tend to take up alot of space!

I might rebase my Normans on squares so I can use them for impetus however.

Cheers
Jason

a 60mm base is like a big model in LoTR I guess - but I wouldn't do that personally.

My (existing) Dark Age figures, like all my other single based figures for other periods, are on 20mm square bases for infantry and 20x40mm bases for cavalry. I made some round sabot bases roughly 45mm across for warlords. These are big enough for two foot or one mounted figure. For dismounted warlords I have the great man and his standard bearer.
The figures are only ever likely to face each other, so nobody gets any advantage.
I guess if I ever wanted to play in a tournament they could be blu-taked to larger bases

I guess all the 40mm rounds would be a bit much once the Normans get to the Epic twelve man Knight unit. Galeforce 9 do a 20mmx80mm magnetic base that I suppose could be cut in halves to make sabot cav bases? Hmm, wonder if the LGS has those. This has got me wanting to play Normans now...

I think 60mm is a bit OTT too, to be honest. But it looks cool and that's half the fun with 28mm gaming!